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Question

What is a normal CD4 count, CD4% and CD4:CD8 ratio?

Answer

After finding out you are HIV positive, your doctor will run several blood tests.

One will be for your immune system and will include your CD4 and CD8 count. Of these, the CD4 count is the most important main result but the CD4% and CD4:CD8 ratio are also sometimes useful.

This Q&A include information about these cels and about interpreting the test results.

CD4 cells are a type of blood cell that is part of your immune system. They are a type of white blood cell (lymphocyte). CD4 cells are sometimes called T-helper cells or T-cells

There are two main types of T-cells.

  1. CD4 cells, also called T4 cells, are “helper” cells. They lead the attack against infections.
  2. CD8 cells, (T8 cells), are “suppressor” cells that complete the immune response. CD8+ cells can also be “killer” cells that kill cancer cells and other cells that are infected by a virus.

CD4 and CD8 counts

The normal ranges for CD4 and CD8 counts vary depending on the lab and test. On average, the normal CD4 range for an HIV negative person is between 460 and 1600. This is an average. Anywhere in this range is good.

Although generally a higher CD4 is good, an HIV negative person with a normal CD4 count of 1200 is not more healthy than someone whose normal count is 400.

The exact CD4 count is not so important. CD4 counts can vary from day to day and even from hour to hour. So the general CD4 result is more important than the exact number.

A normal CD8 range is from 150 to 1000. This test is not used as much but the results come together. It is more important to know your CD4 count than your CD8 count.

CD4 percentage (CD4%)

If you get a CD4 count that is ever unexpectedly high or low, then your CD4% (CD4 percentage) can show whether this is a real change in immune function. The CD4% is a more stable marker than the absolute CD4 count.

The CD4 percentage refers to percentage of total lymphocytes that are CD4 cells. If your test reports CD4% = 34%, that means that 34% of your lymphocytes are CD4 cells.

The average normal CD4% for HIV negative adults is about 40%. However, as with CD4 counts and other test, the range for a “normal” result in an HIV negative person is also wide – from about 25% to 65%.

CD4:CD8 ratio

The CD4:CD8 ratio is also sometimes used, but less often. This is a measure of how balanced your immune function is. This calculated by dividing the CD4 result by the CD8 result.

In HIV negative people, the normal range for the CD4:CD8 ratio is between 0.9 and 1.9. This means that there are about 1 to 2 CD4 cells for every CD8 cell.

When not on HIV treatment, just like the CD4 count and CD4%, the CD4:8 ratio drops over time. Eventually, unless you start treatment, there will be more CD8 cells than CD4 cells (i.e. the ratio drops to less than 1.0).

The CD4:CD8 ratio might be better at predicting future risk in people whose CD4 count is high (above 500 cells/mm3). However, not all studies agree on this.

Other studies have shown that starting ART soon after HIV infection has a much higher chance of keeping the CD4:CD8 ratio higher than 1.0.

Note: this answer was last updated in January 2018 from a post that was originally published in December 2006.

332 comments

  1. Gift

    Hi Roy,
    I was tested positive to HIV last two weeks, that is on 8th July 2019, without me having any HIV symptoms or illness, did my cd4, the result is 784.
    Till now no symptoms, even after taking ARV, my health is just normal like it use to be. And since 2005, I have never be sick nor take drug of any kind.
    Is there possibility of having HIV in me, or can the test be wrong?

  2. Roy Trevelion

    Hi Mrinal,

    Do you have side effects from TLE (Atripla)? The side effects can be dizziness or poor sleep and mood changes.

    If your work shifts change often you can ask your doctor if there are other meds that will be easier for you to take.

  3. Mrinal

    Hi friends
    I also take single pill DOCTOR PROVIDE ME TLE EFVIRENZ INTHIS PILL, I READ YOUR ARTICLE WHAT SHOULD I DO,I CANT CHANGE MY WORK SHIFT.ITS IS RISKY FOR ME OR WHAT ??

  4. Lisa Thorley

    Hi Mrinal,

    As long as you take your meds at roughly the same time every day you’ll be able to control your HIV. If you work shifts the best thing to do is to take an ARV that doesn’t contain efavirenz.

  5. Mrinal

    Hello sir I m diagnosed hiv may 19..My CD4 IS 636…BUT I PERFORMED IN SHIFTING DUTY,I WANT TO KNOW CAN ART MEDICINE MAINTAIN MY CD4 LEVEL IN FUTURE IF I TAKING THESE MEDICINE PROPERLY.

  6. Avan

    Thank you very much. Very helpful.

  7. Roy Trevelion

    Hi Rajbir,

    Have you had an HIV test? That’s the best way to find out. Please see these FAQs for HIV testing and risk.

  8. rajbir

    Hi
    My cd4 is 766
    Nd cd8 is 842
    Nd ratio is .91
    What r chances of hiv + be in me

  9. Lisa Thorley

    Hi Raheem,

    A CD4 of 493 isn’t actually that bad, nor that low. Many people who are positive are diagnosed with a CD4 in single figures.
    Treatment for HIV is called ARVs. As to where you can access them, this will vary depending on where it is that you live. You should be able to access them in the place where you were diagnosed.

    Once on ARVs your HIV with begin to become controlled, please see here: http://i-base.info/guides/starting

    It’s important to know that HIV is no longer the illness it used to be. People who are positive can now lead normal lives.

  10. Raheem

    Hi friends,
    My cd4 counts are 493.. Result is also positive
    Is this dangerous for me..?
    Any expert plz help.. I am truely worried for my health.. Please give direction to me for an better treatment against HIV..
    Thank you

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