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Question

What is a normal CD4 count, CD4% and CD4:CD8 ratio?

Answer

After finding out you are HIV positive, your doctor will run several blood tests.

One will be for your immune system and will include your CD4 and CD8 count. Of these, the CD4 count is the most important main result but the CD4% and CD4:CD8 ratio are also sometimes useful.

This Q&A include information about these cels and about interpreting the test results.

CD4 cells are a type of blood cell that is part of your immune system. They are a type of white blood cell (lymphocyte). CD4 cells are sometimes called T-helper cells or T-cells

There are two main types of T-cells.

  1. CD4 cells, also called T4 cells, are “helper” cells. They lead the attack against infections.
  2. CD8 cells, (T8 cells), are “suppressor” cells that complete the immune response. CD8+ cells can also be “killer” cells that kill cancer cells and other cells that are infected by a virus.

CD4 and CD8 counts

The normal ranges for CD4 and CD8 counts vary depending on the lab and test. On average, the normal CD4 range for an HIV negative person is between 460 and 1600. This is an average. Anywhere in this range is good.

Although generally a higher CD4 is good, an HIV negative person with a normal CD4 count of 1200 is not more healthy than someone whose normal count is 400.

The exact CD4 count is not so important. CD4 counts can vary from day to day and even from hour to hour. So the general CD4 result is more important than the exact number.

A normal CD8 range is from 150 to 1000. This test is not used as much but the results come together. It is more important to know your CD4 count than your CD8 count.

CD4 percentage (CD4%)

If you get a CD4 count that is ever unexpectedly high or low, then your CD4% (CD4 percentage) can show whether this is a real change in immune function. The CD4% is a more stable marker than the absolute CD4 count.

The CD4 percentage refers to percentage of total lymphocytes that are CD4 cells. If your test reports CD4% = 34%, that means that 34% of your lymphocytes are CD4 cells.

The average normal CD4% for HIV negative adults is about 40%. However, as with CD4 counts and other test, the range for a “normal” result in an HIV negative person is also wide – from about 25% to 65%.

CD4:CD8 ratio

The CD4:CD8 ratio is also sometimes used, but less often. This is a measure of how balanced your immune function is. This calculated by dividing the CD4 result by the CD8 result.

In HIV negative people, the normal range for the CD4:CD8 ratio is between 0.9 and 1.9. This means that there are about 1 to 2 CD4 cells for every CD8 cell.

When not on HIV treatment, just like the CD4 count and CD4%, the CD4:8 ratio drops over time. Eventually, unless you start treatment, there will be more CD8 cells than CD4 cells (i.e. the ratio drops to less than 1.0).

The CD4:CD8 ratio might be better at predicting future risk in people whose CD4 count is high (above 500 cells/mm3). However, not all studies agree on this.

Other studies have shown that starting ART soon after HIV infection has a much higher chance of keeping the CD4:CD8 ratio higher than 1.0.

Note: this answer was last updated in January 2018 from a post that was originally published in December 2006.

332 comments

  1. Simon Collins

    Hi Lemah, please could you ask your doctor about these results.

    Once you are taking ART, then the viral load test is the most important HIV-related test. You are doing really well here becasue your viral load is undetectable (less than 20 copies/mL)/

    This link includes normal ranges of many other monitoring tests, but if your results are outside these ranges, your doctor needs to explain why.
    https://i-base.info/qa/factsheets/normal-lab-values

  2. Lemah

    Hi Simon I recently did my bloods and my viral load is <20 and <1.30. Cd4/cd8 was high 2.36. Cd3 lymphocytes 2055, CD4 lymphocytes abs 1412 and cd4 lymphocytes 59

    All this is confusing and accompanied by high ferritin of 260., low transferrin of 2.1 and low neutrophils abs of 1.56 and high mcv of 32.4

    What does all this mean? I'm getting very confusing g feedback . Thanks Lemah

  3. Simon Collins

    Hi Edward, I am sorry that I cannot comment on other complications. You are HIV negative and i-Base is only for HIV and it’s related complications. Please speak to your doctor about this.

  4. Edward

    My absolute CD4 is 1113 and is 13%. The CD4 is 4963 and 71%. I am HIV negative with no risk factors. Did have several unit blood transfusion in 2008 for ruptured spleen. The ratio has been stable for at least four years. A presumptive diagnosis of LGLLeukemia has been made though there is no cloning on the flow cytometry. Is there any reason for further testing such as HTLV or other. I am in robust health for an 81 year old.

  5. Josh Peasegood

    Hi Star, do you know your CD4 count? As your ratio is below 1 it suggests that you have more CD8 cells than CD4 cells. Most commonly this is caused by untreated HIV.

  6. Star

    I have a cd4/cd8 ratio of 0.6

  7. Josh Peasegood

    Hi Joy, what test did you do to find out that you were positive? If you are in the earlier stages of infection rapid tests would not always be accurate.

  8. JOY

    i did a test and i was positive and went for a follow up and still positive and was introduced to arvs and a week letter i did a rapid test and was negative which one should i believe

  9. Josh Peasegood

    Hi Wael, being fearful of HIV to prevent sexual contacts is not healthy. There are many ways to prevent and protect yourself from transmission. Furthermore, living with HIV does not stop people living fulfilling and happy lives. HIV should not be a barrier to a healthy sex life.

  10. Wael

    Hi Josh,

    I made all the tests of HIV and all of them came out Negative(-),
    I will never make any sexual contacts for the rest of my life.
    Thank you.
    Wael.

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