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Can I get resistance from an ARV overdose?

Hi there.

First of all thanks for an excellent resource.

The information you provide, allows people to frame their diagnosis in a more positive (pun intended) context and takes a lot of the anxiety away.

Okay, last August I was not at all coping with my diagnosis and the fact that I had a mutation in my HIV (T215S) or the fact that my CD4 was fairly low (190), so I did something silly. I overdosed on a weeks meds, which at the time were Combivir (AZT+3TC), tenofovir and Sustiva (efavirenz).

The effect of necking seven Sustiva tablets was not pleasant, with a weekend of nightmarish thoughts and visions – horrible. After 5 or 6 days I was put on my current combo replacing Sustiva with boosted Reyataz (atazanavir+ritonavir).

At the time of my overdose I had a viral load of 14,000, which reduced to undetectable after 3 or 4 weeks (overdose, + 5 days no meds + 2-3 weeks current combo). This combo has worked marvelously as my viral load is still undetectable. However, I still worry about the virologic consequences of what I did.

My mental health is good these days, apart from this niggling anxiety. So, what is the liklihood that I developed mutations against the nukes in my combo (Combivir, tenofovir) and Sustiva (the K103N mutation)?

I would like to go back to using sustiva at some point.

Thanks and keep up the BRILLIANT work you guys do. You make a difference!

Answer

Thanks for your question and for allowing to post the answer online so other people can benefit from the information.

I’m sorry to hear that you were having such a difficult time last year which brings up several important points.

The first is that your feelings of desperation, and the decision to take an overdose, may have been related to the Sustiva (efavirenz) in your combination. Mood changes are associated with this drug and in a small number of people this has been linked with suicidal thoughts and actions.

It is difficult to separate your own feelings and the impact efavirenz had, but this may be a good reason to be cautious of using efavirenz in the future.

Your doctor should have highlighted this as a possibility to explain what happened, and why you had such a difficult time.

Secondly, increasing the dose of any HIV drug will not increase any risk of resistance. If anything, it may have made the combination more powerful for that week and made resistance much less likely. The risk of resistance some when drug levels become to low, often because of missing of being late with ARV doses.

Your CD4 count of 190 was actually pretty strong and just below the level that used to be recommended for starting treatment. Over a third of people in the UK are diagnosed after their CD4 count has dropped below 200, and while this is not ideal, most people do very well once they start treatment.

Also, the T215S mutation, while showing a possible reduced sensitivity to AZT, wouldn’t really limit your treatment options, especially as AZT isn’t widely used now in first-line therapy.

A technical reference to this is included below in case this is of interest.

It is great that you are feeling better now and that your new combination is working well.

Thanks also for the nice feedback, which is always appreciated.

From HIV inSite:

“T215S/C/D are transitional mutations between wild-type and Y or F that do not cause reduced drug susceptibility but rather indicate the presence of previous selective drug pressure. They are also referred to as T215 revertants because they are commonly observed in persons who once had viruses containing T215Y/F but who discontinued therapy and in persons who have been infected with a drug-resistant virus.”

4 comments

  1. Josh Peasegood

    Hi T, I am sorry to hear how you are feeling. Have you been able to talk to anyone about this? This could be friends, family or even your doctor.

    I recognise that this can be hard. What about it are you finding difficult?

    ARVs are designed o be taken once daily. They are used to suppress HIV and ensure you are healthy. Taking them daily can prevent you passing on HIV to anybody else and lead you to live a life expectancy similar to those who are HIV negative.

    Overtime HIV will not nearly have the same impact on your life that you currently feel that it does. How long ago did you test positive?

    Being HIV positive should not lead you to feelings of suicide and wanting to hurt yourself. If you are presently feeling this you can go to the emergency room and they will be able to help you in the hospital.

    If this isn’t suitable you can follow this link: https://i-base.info/qa/19680 This will have a list of numbers that you can call anonymously to talk through everything and help prevent you acting on any feelings you may have.

  2. T

    Testing positive at 25 is hard I’ve been thinking of killing myself and I want to drink whole container for three months will it help me with suicide that’s my question

  3. Josh Peasegood

    Hi Phenah, what is the name of the medication you are taking? and how long will you be short of treatment if you take them normally until you run out?

  4. Phenah

    Good Day, am away from my home country my Arvs might get depleted before am back. The country am in do not allow Plwhiv so getting medicine is hard. Am asking can i take less dose of Arv or i alternatively skip some days so that i dont go without medication for the time am in that country

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