Question
Please can you answer these three questions about CD4 count?
9 October 2013. Related: All topics, CD4 and viral load.
Please can you give me advice about these three situations?
Situation 1: I am last two years positive. age 33 man. i am not on medicine. my cd4 1515. viral load undetectable.
No smoking no drinking. Eat well. Can I live long?
Situation 2: I am fit and hiv+ my last cd4- 1200. no viral load. I am not on meds because i am afraid about ARVs.
what can i do? what is the right time to start ARVs? can I use a healthy diet to improve my CD4 count without using ARVs for 15-20 years?
Situation 3: My CD4 660 viral load 400. i am not on med. if my CD4 is over 500, does that mean i am normal as HIV negative person? I am slim so what can do to increase my weight?
Answer
Hi,
Thanks for your emails. Please see our Introduction to combination therapy for general information about CD4 counts, viral loads and starting treatment.
Situation 1
A CD4 count of 1515 is high but still in the normal range. The ‘normal’ range for HIV negative people is 400-1600, so you are right at the top of this. This suggests that your immune system has not been damaged by HIV. It is very unusual to have an undetectable viral load when you are not on treatment. A very small number of people do have this, but it’s important to check with your doctor if this is correct.
If these test results are correct this means you are doing very well. You will need to be monitored regularly by a doctor. If your CD4 count drops you may need to start treatment with ARVs. In the UK people usually start treatment when thier CD4 coiunt is between 350 and 500. So long as you start treatment if/when you need it your life expectancy almost the same as an HIV negative person.
Situation 2
When you say you have ‘no viral load’ do you mean that you have been told this is undetectable, or that you do not have access to viral load testing?
A CD4 count of 1200 is very good. In most countries people don’t start ARVs until their CD4 count is below either 500 or 350.
Almost everybody needs treatment at some point but the time it takes between infection and your CD4 count dropping to 350 varies a lot between people. Please see this page about average time to treatment.
No foods, supplements or herbs can increase your CD4 count. ARVs are the only medicines that can do this. Eating a healthy diet may help to maintain your CD4 count for longer though and is good for your health generally.
Situation 3
Are you HIV positive? I have assumed that you are in answering this question, although you as if you are normal ‘as HIV negative person’.
A CD4 count of 660 is very good, and a viral load of 400 is also good. This shows that your immune system is still strong. Please see this page for information about CD4 counts and risk of illness.
If you want to gain weight you will need to increase the number of calories you eat. If you are worried that your weight is too low and you can not gain weight it’s important to discuss this with your doctor.
Hi Roger, without more details I can only make very general comments. It is good to have changed tenofovir to other meds because of the kidney problems. If is better to stay on your new combiantion, rather than stopping treatment. Staying on your new combination is better for your kidneys than stopping treatment. As someone older than 50, it is good to be on treatment.
Aged 63 years; been HIV+ for 10 years, CD4 count >500 but followed START advice in May this year and began medication Stocrin (efavirenz) plus Ricovir-EM (tenifovir/emtricitabine) but after 3 months developed kidney disorder (AKI), changed to Aluvia (lopinavir/ritonavir), Antivir (aciclovir), zidovudine (AZT) – slow improvement …… but looks like 3 to 6 months recovery required with appropriate medication.
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Hi Dumi, I don;t know about your clinic, but it is common to only monitor every 4-6 months. Alcohol in moderation is okay, so long as you don’t miss your meds.
Thanks doctor so I must wait 4 six months and go back to check my cd4 count. Does alcohol or wine do anything bad..it has been 3 weeks nw I know abt my statistics.
Hi Dumi, thanks, your CD4 count is high enough to mean that the risk and any HIV problems is very low. Although treatment is still recommended at high CD4 counts, if you live in a country with limited access to treatment, guidelines still sometimes recommend waiting until the CD4 count reaches 500. This is so that people with more advanced HIV can have access to treatment first. Please talk again to your doctor about the rash.
Hi doctor I jst find out I am HIV positive and my cd4 is 600 and my doctor told me 2 come back aft 6 months to check my cd4 count… De didn’t gv me medication and I have rash
Hi Silindile, if your mother is taking meds correctly, here viral load might still go down lower. To comment in detail it would help to have more information – when your mother was diagnosed, her current CD4 count and this history, which treatment she is taking etc. If you would like to do this by email please send me a message to: questions@i-base.org.uk
hi guys pls help me my mother is taking her treatment correctly but her viral load is still 500 it not decreasing the doctor sees that but does not care she thinks she is not taking her medicine what can I do because she is on a healthy diet and she is taking her medicine correctly guys help me what can we do we cant afford private doctors.
Hi Thando, if you are on effective treatment there is little to no risk to your partner. It is fine to continue to try for a baby without worrying about this.
I hv 1 year on hiv treatment my bf nd i we were traying a bby bt nothing he tested negetive yesterday i was worried dt im infected her is it posible dt is – or the virious is hiding i need help